Letter ID: 0858
Reference: BL, MS Cotton Galba D V f.77r-78v
Citation: DCB/001/HTML/0858/008
Date: 14 August 1589


Endorsed: To my L Treasuror the 14 August 89


Later Addition: Belgia 1589 14 August To my Lord Tresurer

It may please your L. It should seeme by conference that I & Master Gilpin have hadd with some in this place that there ar those which will endeavour to have hir Majesty moved to appoint Count Maurice Lieutenant Generall of hir highnes forces into these countreyes, which I cannot write as a thing assured, but consyderyng the parsons & theyr maner of communication, I have so good cause to suspect yt as I thought yt very necessary to be imparted with your L. whether yt be intended that the matter should be moved by some wellwillers of the Count, or so handled otherwise as yt might onely seeme to proceed from hir Majesty, I cannot well conjecture, nor yet parceave by theyr speches whether yt would bee an acceptable matter to the generall States, albeit it is pretended that yt would be utterly disliked. The parties that ministered occasyon of this conference ar accounted very honest, well affected to her Majestye & of good reputacion, But not to comber your L with mayny circumstances They lamented very much the feeble state of thes countreys for want of good order in government, & unfayned correspondence with her Majestye with many speeches to that purpose, conceeding upon yt that unles hir Majestye could be [woon] to take the soverainty upon hir, or lay some other plott with this people, then is put in practise at this present yt would be unpossible for this countrey to hold out long against the Enemy. Being heerupon moved by us to deliver what other plott might be proposed, they thought that there could no better course be taken then for hir Majestye to accept of Count Maurice for hir lieutenant generall, & to declare to the Provinces that in respect of the ill accord which hath bin ever between her highnes chief ministers & them, shee can be pleased to comyt the regiment of hir Auxiliary forces to some principall parson of theyr nation who together with the counsell of State being better established, might take such order in all thinges as were requysyt. this they thought would make very muche for the [concurement] of the commune cause & occasyon a greater union between hir Majesty & these countreys. They added withall that yt would also cause the matche to go forward between the Countesse of Beuren & the Count Hohenlo. whom they thought yt also likely that Count Mauricein that caise would appoint his Lieutenant. And likewise that Count Maurice might be drawen by that meanes to matche with some Englishe house, & knitt a parfect & parpetuall knott of amity & alliance between the two nations. Upon these & other like partinent discourses we demaunded, were yt so that her Majesty could be in duced to like of such a notion. whether they thought yt fytt that her highnes of her self should make offer of such a singular favour to the Count Considering the Coldenes /devotion/ which his excellency hath alwaies shewed in furthering of hir Majesties causes, & the slender courtesy that all those of fol.77v
our nation had receaved at his handes. Whereupon they made me answer that there would be no doubt but that yf the Count might stand assured that the offer of his service in that behalf would be well accepted hir Majesty should quickly parceave that he would therby addict him self to [frame] all his cowrsesto hir Majesties contentation. The finall answere to all these speeches was, that we knew no other by but that hir Majestie ment to continew the government of hir subjectes in hir owne [ministers], & that yf the Countrey heer hath not receaved that assistance & ayd, as they expected the fault was in theyr owne preposterous & parvers proceeding. Nevertheles yf we might either parceave in the Count himself or by any of his friendes as from him, that he were willing to have the motion made to her Majesty, ther should be no difficulty made to serve his turne in that behalf. Since this talk was between us, I have bin informed, that the self same parties have had a great deale of conference with a principall consaillor of the Count, about the same dessigne. Also the Count, I have noted of late hath conversed here with us more familiarly & courteously then he was accustomed heertofor, And as Sir Francis Vere hath written to mee since his being at Gorchum both hee & Count Hohenlo have intreated him & the rest with extraordinary kyndenes. There are other conjecturall tokens besides by which yt may be gathered almost playnly that the Count & his friendes ar purposed to deale directly or indirectly with hir Majesty & that they are in hope to obtaine their desire & though I cannot understand that the generall states ar made acquainted with the matter, yet I do assure my self that there are among them some whose counsel ys [.]. And whether yt may not be a spetiall occasyon that they have bin of late so over insolent & headstrong thereby parhaps to make hir Majesty weary of hir owne courses & to work the government of all to the Count & them selves. I leave yt to your L. judgement together with the Consyderacion of this whole advertisement, wherof to write my opinion, although I knowe yt is nedles, yet I cannot but intimate thus much, that yfthe Count wold cary him self [no] otherwise then he ought & those with whom we had this conference would seeme to assure us as far as my slender capacity can [reatche], both hir Majesty might be eased of a great deal of trouble, & the Countrey here much better assisted. Thus beseeching your L yf in fol.78r
this motion there by any thing materiall to acquaint Master Secretary with yt. I take my humble leave. From the Hage Aug 89